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if you're pissing people off to this degree, you know your art is the real thing. keep going.
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I'm behind you! This is such excellent stuff!!!
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the spitting guy? whaaaaat?
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LG, you're the man. er, the wo-man. anyone who doesn't agree can just slag off.
i mean, why read and comment if you don't like it? that's going out of your way to tell someone you don't like them.
and don't let the haters and, even worse, the equivocators, get to you.
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I finally went and looked at American Elf. He's right, you don't rip him off -- I can always figure out what the h3ll you're talking about.
Do yer thing. Worry not about the rest.
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i concur with the previous comments
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how redonkulous.
you asked him for feedback and you took out of proportion a statement that people are ripping him off. (im sure lots of people ARE ripping him off his style of drawing or panel/time choice. but his phrasing is pretty insecure.)
in responding, he didnt go any further than his original hurt moment. im sure he thought a little more about it than that, but in only presenting that moment, he is the soul of passive aggression. (wonder what his traffic stats are compared to yours)
however larger than this, you both realize that internet success = internet traffic and that this "feud" benefits you both.
which is why i like blogs, cause a part of me never grew out of 7th grade mentality. feud on!
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ewwwwwwwwwwww
poo-ee mail shute
YUCK(i just spent way to long working out how to spell poo-ee)
OH.... and me with such a visual mind.
man if that could really happen it would REALLY suck
xox eve xox
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I'd like to soak your head in a vat of jizz.
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I love this blog.
One thing I really like is how real it is -- not just a packaged joke-a-day cartoon, but a real reflection of this particular girl's life.
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oh jasonx-12, how incredibly reasonable... not to say unlikely.
not entirely sure what the average amount of ejaculate is per human per orgasm, but lets say that it is around 4ml, and lets say a bucket's volume is around 10litres (10,000ml),
that would equate to about two and a half thousand ejaculations! that's gonna take a whole helluvalot of organising...
ofcourse, you could look into using sources other than human. i believe horses produce far more... lol
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i didn't know who jk was til i read your blog yesterday.
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I still don't know who jk is and I'm still reading yours. Go figure.
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Jason X-12 is awesome! So awesome that he has his own shirt:
http://www.dieselsweeties.com/shirts/jks/
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a.) I've been coming here daily since you got BoingBoinged. Great stuff; I'm really enjoying it.
b.) I also had no idea who JK was until you mentioned him, at which point I went over to check out his thing. I think I'll be echoing at least one comment above when I say: What the hell? I like to think I'm a pretty clever individual, but I don't get it.
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I had never heard of that other douchebag, but I just Google'd him and read a bunch of his entries. They are not funny at all. I will never bother to read it again. You are hilarious! I check your blog every day! Sometimes I check it more than once a day, hoping it's been updated! Nigel, my boyfriend (whom I think you know) thinks I'm stalking you!
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nothing's so authentic as an American who uses terms like shite and rubbish
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I think your drawings are awesome. Please keep making them.
I showed my boyfriend your drawing about tron boots and now he also loves you.
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awwww - I am said boyfriend. Anything to do with Tron immediately wins me over - except for my scratched disk of the movie - that blows.
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if only all the honchos giving you props like "you go girl" and "teh älfman SuckZorZ, i've never even read him, and im not going to now" or "ah don't get it, an' ah considah mahself way WAY intellagent" - if only your fans wouldn't sound so obnoxius and totally clueless, there might be something to console yerself with.
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Anonymous - the average human ejaculate is 10cc.
That's why the band called themselves that.
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what is be boingboinged?
is that the same as getting poo on your face?
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This JK guy, He's going DOWN...too bad.
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Her in italics, me in bold, the actual correspondence:
Subject:
Work i just know you'll like
Message:
Hello there James. I just recently got into your comics after I started publishing my illustrated diary online and someone said 'hey you have to check out american elf'. So I did and at first I didn't like it at all - then I realised I was just jealous. Now I own both your anthologies and I am speeding my way through the first book. You truly do live a charmed life.
So to cut a long story short i think you'll really get a kick out my illustrated diary please check it out www.dayinpictures.co.uk - I warn you that anything you say about it I may quote, even if it's terrible! Then I'd quote it in a post-modern way.
Thanks for your time,
Caroline
Subject:
Re: Work i just know you'll like
Message:
Thanks for writing. But guess what? I've already been to your site and read your comics before! I probably followed a link back to it or something. I love the way the web works like that.
I like that your diary is not too much like mine, 'cause that means yours isn't just some rip-off. (I see a lot that look exactly like mine.) Actually, there's a new book out by Julie Doucet called 365 Days (published by Drawn & Quarterly), and her diary has a similar format to yours, lots of text surrounding drawings. So you might like it.
best wishes,
James Kochalka
Yeah, I'm a fucking monster, right? I don't see how I was anything less than polite and cordial to her.
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I never actually said JK was a monster - or anything like that ! I was just referring to the rip-off bit & I'd also just read in his biog that "He invented the daily diary comic strip (see AmericanElf.com) which has spawned literally dozens of imitators." I was just focusing on that.
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out of interest i just checked netdoctor:
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/facts/semenandsperm.htm
and under 'what is normal semen' it says:
'The average volume of semen produced at ejaculation is 2 to 5ml. Volumes consistently less than 1.5ml (hypospermia) or more than 5.5ml (hyperspermia) are probably abnormal.'
so i guess the guys from 10cc were alpha males... ;)
even if you accept that 10cc (10ml) is average, that would still mean needing 1000 chaps to do their stuff...
lol, rereading has shown that jasonx-12 used the word vat, not bucket, vat gives me the impression of something with far more volume than 10litres, so krist only knows how many contributors would be needed! :D
i think we will have to go with the horses...
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Ha. Well, I did invent the daily diary comic strip, as far as I know. I began in 1998, and have been unable to find a daily diary comic strip that precedes mine. The closest precedent is Jim's Journal, but Jim's Journal was fictional, and for that reason a completely different animal. I don't think it matters that much if I invented it or not though.
However, in your strip you accuse me of claiming to invent the autobiographical comic. Which I have never claimed. Which makes your strip very, very misleading and dishonest.
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sorry, this comment box truncated the address. it should be:
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/
menshealth/facts/
semenandsperm.htm
i had to split it to get it all in...
:)
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I was just exaggerating - you know like in comedy? If you want the facts get an encyclopedia.
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Your blog is awesome girl! Keep it up and never stop...please! By the way you are damn funny too.
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JK and LG! Just stop this bickering NOW! If we hear any more of this nonsense you'll both be put on the raincloud.
Agggg - now I know I've been in primary TOOO long.
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that response from james seemed really nice. i don't see how that could be misconstrued as anything else. it seems like local girl (it pains me to type that ridiculous name) had made up her mind to start this feud before she even got a response from james ("I warn you that anything you say about it I may quote, even if it's terrible!"). this is all starting to remind me of the kathy griffin episode of seinfeld in which she gains fame by creating an act with the sole purpose of bashing jerry seinfeld.
i'm curious to see how some of the local girl supporters respond to the actual correspondence, and not the exaggerated version they were originally presented.
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LG, I looked at American Elf, and not only is your blog nothing like that, but AE isn't anywhere as cool as yours.
Your blunt honesty is what is hilarious and appealing about your blog. Keep that up and don't let naysayers get you down. (There will always be people who have something nasty to say, no matter what. Pay them no heed.)
Even so, you might try not to be so sensitive. I read your correspondence with JK, and even though he does come across as a little proud that he "invented" comic diaries, he was actually rather polite to you. It's easy to have misunderstanding in written communication. A little diplomacy goes a long way, even if you secretly think someone's a douche for putting himself on a grand pedestal.
Good luck, LG, and don't give up. Your readers depend on you.
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The main aim of my blog is to entertain. I took something I found mildly annoying EG the tone of JK's email and I chose to blow it up out of all proportion for editorial and entertainment purposes - nothing more, nothing less.
Can everyone stop taking life so seriously now!??
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hah. this is quite amusing and ironic: all these people who hate you have done is make your blog more amusing and perhaps ultimately increased its readership. perhaps it should be termed the maddox effect.
it's amazing what people will get up in arms about these days.
the internet is a very serious business.
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how come (snigger) we've all stopped talking about the 'jizz'!?
;)
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okay, so what are the readers of local girl supposed to think now? i'm to understand that local girl's sole purpose is to entertain (as she wrote above). if that's true then i can't really believe whatever she writes (because i now know that she will exaggerate her experiences for entertainment purposes). part of the interest in reading these comic diaries is the fact that they're based on real life as it happens (not how we want it to happen or wish it would happen). what i like most about american elf is that some of the comics are based on the most mundane activity. some of life's greatest moments occur in these small details. what he does, however, is he compensates for the lack of story with beautiful drawings (not scribbles and chicken scratches).
many readers have commented above how they appreciate local girl's honesty and the fact that her comic is a representation of her life, but she's not honest (by admission) and she writes about what she thinks would entertain her readers (rather than what actually happens in her life), and that's fine. when somebody tells a story they usually add a foot to the size of the fish, or they hit 3 home runs instead of one. if you want a good story lg might be the blog for you (although i haven't found anything of interest), but if you appreciate catching an honest, uncensored glimpse of somebody's life then check out american elf.
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Local Girl is a publicity hound who attacks people to draw attention to her site. That's a fundamental dishonesty on which to base a work of art.
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I am putting that on a tee shirt!
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Why not just let Jason jizz on your shirt instead?
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yay! the jizz is back! :)
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Are we sure this isn't some brilliant strategy, and the two of them aren't in cahoots to up readership on their respective blogs?
LG - I think your blog is funny - I've been reading it since it was a Blog of the Day. I went to American Elf for the sole purpose of admiring a comic that you clearly admire, and I thought it was creative. But in reading these comments here (and for the last strip) from James and his seriously unhinged 'bro Jason ("Wah wah, you were mean to my friend!"), and their minions, I'm disappointed that someone with his prolific body of work, publishing clout and years of experience with comics, isn't acting little more intelligent and above all this. I mean, this man is 40 years old. I know that, because he has a Wikipedia entry, but apparently not the confidence to handle a little teasing.
James, your email was very polite. But it was obvious you weren't interested if giving her any genuine compliments, so you went ahead and took the opportunity of complimenting yourself. I'm not saying I think you meant to - but that's how sounds. If you don't get what I'm saying, just read "I like that your diary is not too much like mine, 'cause that means yours isn't just some rip-off" over and over, until you do. You're not obligated to compliment her, but in my opinion, you should feel obligated by your experience and maturity to try to out this "sense of humor" thing that seems to work so well for others.
Let's keep the jizz coming, folks.
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"Seriously unhinged?" Awesome. I'm like some psycho internet bodyguard for a drugdealer in a futuristic "Lethal Weapon" movie.
I hope everyone knows I wanted to drown the "Bard" person in jizz, not the Local chick.
The vat of jizz can be made up of any combinations of semen you can think of...from horses, rhinos, bulldogs, elephants, Ron Jeremy...
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Im not really sure if you understand this. but Kochalka has been working on comics for SOOO much longer than you have and has been doing a MUCH better job than you.
learn to take some criticism, please! Actually it wasn't even criticism. My god, you should realize that's a normal thing in the comics industry. you should be happy he even had time to answer your stupid little email. so many people now have a lucrative website/career thanks to Kochalka inventing the daily comic strip. so now because of your stupid post, somehow your think your gonna end up on top, cause of your little lackeys saying shit like, "oh, go local girl, your so much better than the elf guy" im only gonna read your blog from now on and close myself of to all other web comics!" oh, and philosophic bard, your a serious douche bag and your blog sucks major ass. look at me, i can use the word shite instead of shit cause it makes me sound cooler!
Kochalka is a genius, and he is very much human. He goes on with his day to day life doing what he loves to do. His life is much richer and fulfilling than most. oh and Jason x-12, you rock.
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I love both lg's and jk's work. Is that allowed? I do wish people would be nicer, but i realize that is unrealistic. I do hope local girl keeps focussing more on art as truth instead of art as entertainment.
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I have a friend who's a pathological liar; everyone knows that half the shit he says is bull, but, in his mind it isn't, he perceives it to be true.
No one looks at anything through the same set of eyes or beliefs (and as we can see, sense of humour!)
So many ego's to be fed. Keep chomping people!
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As a long time JK fan, I was disappointed when I read on your site that his ego prevented you from getting feedback on your art. After reading the emails, I have to say I'm embarrassed to have come back to check your site again this afternoon. The embellishments you made to "entertain your audience" now seem like nothing more than a ploy for self-promotion, and that can ensure the momentary spike in your website statistics remain just that.
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lol, i wonder what mr. r. jeremy is up to these days...
/anonymous checks wikipedia....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ron_jeremy
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My blog is completely truthful to my thoughts and feelings surrounding events in my life, however I pick and choose those thoughts in a way I feel would be more interesting to my readers. EG the funnier the better!
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There's nothing funnier than reader outrage.
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holy smokes, this is getting out of control..... :[
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did he seriously say that he invented the diary comic strip?
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Well, 'daily' diary comic strip. you know like a diary comic strip, but every day.
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The only thing I can see American Elf invented is LAME! A 5 and 2 look like a guy with their feet pointing out. WTF?! Who give's a shit. Thanks for talking about something real! Keep it up...
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INTERNEXT IS REAL DRAMAR!
sometimes i talk in a baby voice because it seems funnier.
(if you squint & imagine there is a tiny drawing of a troll doll, this is an american elf post)
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i didn't know who that other guy was till i read your blog...i didn't like his site at all - i googled him. boooo. i love yours! you are hilarious...
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Although I am number 65 in this list of comments, where very little will see it - I needed to just say, "I think your blog is better than James Kochalka's blog!"
Just sayin'.
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When you first read American Elf it seems like it sucks. But after you read a few dozen strips, it starts to get amazing.
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I like his artwork but most of the content is so dreary, especially since he had kids. Also it has this sort of faux 'oh look how beautiful the small things are - oh a leaf in the snow *weep*' that gets old really quickly.
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if you're pissing people off to this degree, you know your art is the real thing. keep going.